(Athens Georgia) " Weekly Banner Watchman " for Tuesday June 1886 (date 15th)
A THEOLOGICAL DEBATE
A debate between Rev D. B. Clayton, of the Universalist Church, and Elder S. S. Landrum, of the Church of Christ, will be held in the Academy, Jug Tavern, Ga., July 7, 1886.
Proposition For Discussion:
1st. The Scriptures teach the final holiness and happiness of all mankind.
Clayton affirms; Landrum denies.
2d. The Scriptures teach that those who die in willful disobedience, of the Gospel, will suffer endless punishment.
Landrum affirms; Clayton denies.
2012 editorial comment:
Jug Tavern is now the city of Winder. It was known as Jug from 1793 to c1803, Jug Tavern starting in c1803. It was incorporated in 1884, and became the city of Winder in 1893.
The Academy was created in 1880, and at some point, apparently around 1887, it became a public school, and continued at the same site until 1938. A historic marker is all that remains of the school.
It is less than three miles from the Mulberry Grove Universalist Church.
S. S. Landrum was a preacher for the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). He is known to have preached at the Antioch Christian Church near Watkinsville, Georgia during the years of 1886 - 1907, as well as founding the Christian Church in Winder in 1881. Living in Tampa. Florida in 1907, and then moved to Texas. Preaching in Missouri in 1905, he was called a "Southern Evangelist".
So therefore likely a fine debate between him and D. B. Clayton, the Universalist Southern Evangelist.
Friday, April 13, 2012
Thursday, February 23, 2012
Recent newspaper article on George DeBenneville
This is a link to a 23 Feb 2012 article in the Reading, Pennsylvania newspaper about Dr. George DeBenneville
I suspect that probably in the next 3-9 months that the article will no longer be gone.
I even suggest you look at the comments. (or at least how they were when i wrote the recommendation)
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=366772
His connection with southern Universalism is two
1) his friendship with Ellahanan Winchester (admittedly after EW had left the south)
2) his connection with the German Baptist universalist community near him, that did indeed
move south to the Carolinas and then west and midwest.
I suspect that probably in the next 3-9 months that the article will no longer be gone.
I even suggest you look at the comments. (or at least how they were when i wrote the recommendation)
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=366772
His connection with southern Universalism is two
1) his friendship with Ellahanan Winchester (admittedly after EW had left the south)
2) his connection with the German Baptist universalist community near him, that did indeed
move south to the Carolinas and then west and midwest.
Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Allreds of White Springs, Florida -
Excepert from Rev. Q. H. Shinn's coloumn "Personal Expericnces In Making Universalists" that appeared in the March 6, 1906 issue of ONWARD
"Now I'm going to tell about a Florida boy. I am at present in the home of his parents in White Springs, Florida, and the boy, their only child, is in Atlanta Ga. Eight years ago his father was a practicing physician in Jasper, Florida. His mother being a strong Universalist had me visit them and give a series of meetings in the Baptist Church. It was easy to secure the use of this church, since his father was a Baptist. One day the boy, then 13 years old, came up into my room, and after showing a little embarrassment, made a request that surprised me. He asked me if I intended to "open the doors of the Church," saying he wanted to join. I told him it would be hardly proper to ask people to unite with the Universalist Church at a service held in a Baptist house of worship; besides there was no organization in Jasper, and only one outspoken Universalist - his mother. But this made no difference with the boy; he wanted to join. At the close of my sermon that night, I explained his wishes, and asked those who desired to unite with the Universalist Church to come forward. Promptly the little fellow stood before the altar, and one of the intelligent ladies of the place, a friend of his mother, came up and stood by his side. I administered baptism, and extended the fellowship of our Church, and sent their names to be recorded on the roll of members at De Funiak Springs.
The boy had good Universalist blood in his veins. His mother is a Cawthon, her father a great Universalist. Her grandfather, John Cawthon, the father of Universalism in Western Florida. And now the boy is a promising young man, ambitious to be a great surgeon. He is in a medical college in Atlanta. He is worker in our church in Atlanta. He is secretary of the Y.P.C.U. His name is John Allred. "
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Mother: Mary Melissa "Ashley" Cawthon Allred (1864-1958) buried in Silver Hill Cemetery, Frostfree, Florida.
Father: Idus Park "I. P." Allred, MD (1860-1930) also buried in Silver Hill Cemetery.
Son: John Glenn Allred (1885 - 1952) also burried in Silver Hill Cemetery.
This modern-day non-family member has no idea if John Allred continued as a member of the Universalist Church pass the dates mentioned above (c1899 -1906), nor do I know why he didn't became a surgeon. We know that both his father and his father's father were medical doctors (his father actually had an article of his reprinted as a booklet for massive distribution), so no doubt there was pressure on him, the only child to also be a doctor. He was in medical school from at least 1906 - 1910, but around 1912, he became an electrician - at first wiring a town and owning a telephone company, then providing the knowledge to power mining equipment and towns, and then to help electrify Florida for what became the Florida Power and Light Company (now Progress Energy). He married also around 1913 (and his wife was the telephone operator of his telephone company).
The Allred family lived in Jasper (Hamilton County), Florida -1898; White Springs (Hamilton County), Florida c1898- July 1912, Florala, (Covington County), Alabama , July 1912 -
Frostfree, Florida (Polk, County) -1920-1958.
Mrs. I. P. Allred was Vice President of the Florida Universalist Convention from 1910-1911.
Her sister and father had been officers of the Convention prior to her service. The state convention was held at White Springs in 1905.
"Now I'm going to tell about a Florida boy. I am at present in the home of his parents in White Springs, Florida, and the boy, their only child, is in Atlanta Ga. Eight years ago his father was a practicing physician in Jasper, Florida. His mother being a strong Universalist had me visit them and give a series of meetings in the Baptist Church. It was easy to secure the use of this church, since his father was a Baptist. One day the boy, then 13 years old, came up into my room, and after showing a little embarrassment, made a request that surprised me. He asked me if I intended to "open the doors of the Church," saying he wanted to join. I told him it would be hardly proper to ask people to unite with the Universalist Church at a service held in a Baptist house of worship; besides there was no organization in Jasper, and only one outspoken Universalist - his mother. But this made no difference with the boy; he wanted to join. At the close of my sermon that night, I explained his wishes, and asked those who desired to unite with the Universalist Church to come forward. Promptly the little fellow stood before the altar, and one of the intelligent ladies of the place, a friend of his mother, came up and stood by his side. I administered baptism, and extended the fellowship of our Church, and sent their names to be recorded on the roll of members at De Funiak Springs.
The boy had good Universalist blood in his veins. His mother is a Cawthon, her father a great Universalist. Her grandfather, John Cawthon, the father of Universalism in Western Florida. And now the boy is a promising young man, ambitious to be a great surgeon. He is in a medical college in Atlanta. He is worker in our church in Atlanta. He is secretary of the Y.P.C.U. His name is John Allred. "
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Mother: Mary Melissa "Ashley" Cawthon Allred (1864-1958) buried in Silver Hill Cemetery, Frostfree, Florida.
Father: Idus Park "I. P." Allred, MD (1860-1930) also buried in Silver Hill Cemetery.
Son: John Glenn Allred (1885 - 1952) also burried in Silver Hill Cemetery.
This modern-day non-family member has no idea if John Allred continued as a member of the Universalist Church pass the dates mentioned above (c1899 -1906), nor do I know why he didn't became a surgeon. We know that both his father and his father's father were medical doctors (his father actually had an article of his reprinted as a booklet for massive distribution), so no doubt there was pressure on him, the only child to also be a doctor. He was in medical school from at least 1906 - 1910, but around 1912, he became an electrician - at first wiring a town and owning a telephone company, then providing the knowledge to power mining equipment and towns, and then to help electrify Florida for what became the Florida Power and Light Company (now Progress Energy). He married also around 1913 (and his wife was the telephone operator of his telephone company).
The Allred family lived in Jasper (Hamilton County), Florida -1898; White Springs (Hamilton County), Florida c1898- July 1912, Florala, (Covington County), Alabama , July 1912 -
Frostfree, Florida (Polk, County) -1920-1958.
Mrs. I. P. Allred was Vice President of the Florida Universalist Convention from 1910-1911.
Her sister and father had been officers of the Convention prior to her service. The state convention was held at White Springs in 1905.
Tuesday, December 13, 2011
Burrus Memorial, Hamburg, Madison County, Florida
Hamburg Florida is a small community in Madison County, Georgia. It's about 18 miles south of Quitman Georgia, and therefore the biggest town around would likely be Valdosta, Ga, on I-75.
I can't tell if any buisness are left in Hamburg, but looks like there's Shiloh United Methodist Church and some homes. And there used to be a Universalist Church there.
At first it was a preaching station.
Universalism came to Madison County around the 1840s, when Samuel S. Hinton (1812-1872) moved there from Abbeville, SC. His father was one of the co-founders of the Universalist Church in Abbeville in the 1830s. His brother-in-law, Judge James P. Martin (1838 - 1916) proudly had the slogan " A True Universalist" carved on his tombstone. Hinton's father, Thomas Z. Hinton (1789 - 1863) moved to Hamburg himself in 1862, with him came other members of the Hinton family.
The Elijah Linch family was living in nearby Madison, Florida in the 1840s-1860s ( His father was Elijah Linch Sr - the Universalist minister of Newberry SC. Son, Hezekiah, was active in Georgia Universalist Convention in the 1880s ).
Thus when Universalist ministers came through the area, there were enough folks for a good
service, if not enough for a good congregation. By the way, Judge Martin was not known to be a liberal in politics, just in religion.
Finally after 50 years, it was time to start a formal church. The Church was named Burrus Memorial, for the circuit rider and Universalist Herald editor. Sometimes called Burress Chapel. It is also frequently called the Hamburg Universalist Church. The church building was adjacent to the Ebenezer Methodist Church.
December 1905, Rev Q. H. Shinn holds meetings in Hamburg. Thomas Martin, the county clerk, is an Universalist. His wife and most of his children are Methodist. Douglas Martin, who was then (Shinn reports) ten years old, rides his pony home to ask his mother if he has her permission to join the Universalist Church. She agrees, and after his 20 mile round trip ride, he is baptized and joins as a member of the new Universalist Church.
Thomas Martin (1860 - 1926, and son of Judge Martin), Douglas Martin (1893 - 1978).
The math does suggests that Shinn was off by a few years in his story.
Feb. 1907 building dedicated, and the Florida Universalist Convention was held at the church.
1907 - 1908 Isabelle "Belle" Martin (1868 -1944), daughter of Judge Martin, lay leader in 1907-1908. The church is served by supply ministers, and 6 families make the membership.
1907 - 1910 William C. Smith (1872 -1937) , member of the congregation, is active in the Florida Universalist Convention, serving as President in 1908 - 1909, and Treasurer in 1910. His wife is another daughter of Judge Martin.
June 1923 Rev. Stanley Manning preaching there.
1929 Rev. A.G. Strain was doing some regular circuit riding in Hamburg.
1932 Rev Thomas Chapman does preaching (he is a circuit riding minister covering from Mississippi to South Carolina). Present in March, July, and November, doing 3 services per visit.
1932 - 1939 + William "Carlton" Smith (1899 - 1963), son of the above William Coffee Smith, was a lay leader of the church.
1943 Miss Belle Martin (see above) listed as lay leader prior to 1943. (report in late 30s or early 40s)
May 22, 1960 large turnout at the Homecoming at the Church. Service by the Rev. L. C. Prater.
1961/1962 Not listed as one of those churches that joined the new Unitarian Universalist Association.
other members
John "Luther" Sullivan (1882 - 1978) converted while Rev Strain was the minister (c1928) and considered himself to be a member up to the end of his life. In the timber, turpentine, and land buisness.
Newspaper article from 2008 including photograph of church
The building was still standing and visitable as of 2008.
Updated Dec 18, 2011 (twice), August 1, 2012, August 28, 2012
I can't tell if any buisness are left in Hamburg, but looks like there's Shiloh United Methodist Church and some homes. And there used to be a Universalist Church there.
At first it was a preaching station.
Universalism came to Madison County around the 1840s, when Samuel S. Hinton (1812-1872) moved there from Abbeville, SC. His father was one of the co-founders of the Universalist Church in Abbeville in the 1830s. His brother-in-law, Judge James P. Martin (1838 - 1916) proudly had the slogan " A True Universalist" carved on his tombstone. Hinton's father, Thomas Z. Hinton (1789 - 1863) moved to Hamburg himself in 1862, with him came other members of the Hinton family.
The Elijah Linch family was living in nearby Madison, Florida in the 1840s-1860s ( His father was Elijah Linch Sr - the Universalist minister of Newberry SC. Son, Hezekiah, was active in Georgia Universalist Convention in the 1880s ).
Thus when Universalist ministers came through the area, there were enough folks for a good
service, if not enough for a good congregation. By the way, Judge Martin was not known to be a liberal in politics, just in religion.
Finally after 50 years, it was time to start a formal church. The Church was named Burrus Memorial, for the circuit rider and Universalist Herald editor. Sometimes called Burress Chapel. It is also frequently called the Hamburg Universalist Church. The church building was adjacent to the Ebenezer Methodist Church.
December 1905, Rev Q. H. Shinn holds meetings in Hamburg. Thomas Martin, the county clerk, is an Universalist. His wife and most of his children are Methodist. Douglas Martin, who was then (Shinn reports) ten years old, rides his pony home to ask his mother if he has her permission to join the Universalist Church. She agrees, and after his 20 mile round trip ride, he is baptized and joins as a member of the new Universalist Church.
Thomas Martin (1860 - 1926, and son of Judge Martin), Douglas Martin (1893 - 1978).
The math does suggests that Shinn was off by a few years in his story.
Feb. 1907 building dedicated, and the Florida Universalist Convention was held at the church.
1907 - 1908 Isabelle "Belle" Martin (1868 -1944), daughter of Judge Martin, lay leader in 1907-1908. The church is served by supply ministers, and 6 families make the membership.
1907 - 1910 William C. Smith (1872 -1937) , member of the congregation, is active in the Florida Universalist Convention, serving as President in 1908 - 1909, and Treasurer in 1910. His wife is another daughter of Judge Martin.
June 1923 Rev. Stanley Manning preaching there.
1929 Rev. A.G. Strain was doing some regular circuit riding in Hamburg.
1932 Rev Thomas Chapman does preaching (he is a circuit riding minister covering from Mississippi to South Carolina). Present in March, July, and November, doing 3 services per visit.
1932 - 1939 + William "Carlton" Smith (1899 - 1963), son of the above William Coffee Smith, was a lay leader of the church.
1943 Miss Belle Martin (see above) listed as lay leader prior to 1943. (report in late 30s or early 40s)
May 22, 1960 large turnout at the Homecoming at the Church. Service by the Rev. L. C. Prater.
1961/1962 Not listed as one of those churches that joined the new Unitarian Universalist Association.
other members
John "Luther" Sullivan (1882 - 1978) converted while Rev Strain was the minister (c1928) and considered himself to be a member up to the end of his life. In the timber, turpentine, and land buisness.
Newspaper article from 2008 including photograph of church
The building was still standing and visitable as of 2008.
Updated Dec 18, 2011 (twice), August 1, 2012, August 28, 2012
Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Hosea Ballou - Morning Prayer
Come let us raise our voices high, and form a sacred song,
to Him who rules the earth and sky, and does our days prolong.
Who thru the night gave us to rest, this morning cheered our eyes;
and with the thousands of the blest, in health made us to rise.
Early to God, we'll send our prayer. Make haste to pray and praise,
that He may make our good His care, and guide us all our days.
And when the night of death comes on, and we shall end our days,
may His rich grace the theme prolong of His eternal phrase.
Hosea Ballou - 1808
from a Sacred Harp singing. The words of Father Ballou continue to be sung.
"this morning cheered our eyes" indeed!
to Him who rules the earth and sky, and does our days prolong.
Who thru the night gave us to rest, this morning cheered our eyes;
and with the thousands of the blest, in health made us to rise.
Early to God, we'll send our prayer. Make haste to pray and praise,
that He may make our good His care, and guide us all our days.
And when the night of death comes on, and we shall end our days,
may His rich grace the theme prolong of His eternal phrase.
Hosea Ballou - 1808
from a Sacred Harp singing. The words of Father Ballou continue to be sung.
"this morning cheered our eyes" indeed!
Wednesday, September 07, 2011
NC and Georgia Universalist Conventions 2011
Both the North Carolina and Georgia Universalist Conventions are being held this Fall.
NC (under the abbreviation UCONCI) meets October 8 -9, 2011
has information on their website and a brochure that is being passed out.
This is at the Shelter Neck Camp in eastern NC.
Georgia is a little more low key and much shorter, and will be meeting Sunday Morning September 18, 2011 in Canon, Georgia.
(disclaimer: I will be attending the shorter meeting in Georgia)
NC (under the abbreviation UCONCI) meets October 8 -9, 2011
has information on their website and a brochure that is being passed out.
This is at the Shelter Neck Camp in eastern NC.
Georgia is a little more low key and much shorter, and will be meeting Sunday Morning September 18, 2011 in Canon, Georgia.
(disclaimer: I will be attending the shorter meeting in Georgia)
Wednesday, July 20, 2011
old Universalist Church building in Americus, Georgia
This building was built in 1900 as an Universalist Church in Americus, Georgia. There was a long history of Universalism in the area. Indeed among the founders of the Plains of Dura were Universalists (and an Universalist minister). When the town moved and changed its name to Plains, a new Universalist Church was built there as well. Rev L. F. W. Andrews lived his last few years in Americus (1870s) , and we know that Rev. C.F.R. Shehane had a debate in town in the 1850s.
We know that the Christian Scientists were in the building in the 1910s (the city directory states they and the Universalists were both there). In the late 1920s, the building was sold to the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), who added the Sunday School building and changed the windows (and later added air conditioning). They last met in circa 1998/1999. as of 2011, the building is being used by the First United Methodist Church as their Spanish Language Mission.
The last known Universalist Church service in Americus was circa 1930 by the Rev. Stanley Manning.
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We know that the Christian Scientists were in the building in the 1910s (the city directory states they and the Universalists were both there). In the late 1920s, the building was sold to the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), who added the Sunday School building and changed the windows (and later added air conditioning). They last met in circa 1998/1999. as of 2011, the building is being used by the First United Methodist Church as their Spanish Language Mission.
The last known Universalist Church service in Americus was circa 1930 by the Rev. Stanley Manning.
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